P2177 System Too Lean From Idle, Bank 1

DTC P2177 - OBD-II Data Sheet

System is too loose from idle, bank 1

What does trouble code P2177 mean?

This Generic Transmission / Engine DTC is commonly applied to fuel injection engines from most European and Asian manufacturers since 2010.

These manufacturers include, but are not limited to Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes, BMW / Mini, Hyundai, Mazda, Kia, and Infiniti. You can also see this on other models like the Dodge.

This code mainly refers to the value provided by the air / fuel ratio sensor, more commonly called the oxygen sensor (located in the exhaust), which helps the vehicle's PCM (powertrain control module) monitor the amount of fuel injected into the engine. In particular, the PCM detects a lean mixture, which means too much air in the air / fuel ratio. This code is set for bank 1, which is the cylinder group that includes cylinder number 1. This could be a mechanical or electrical fault, depending on the vehicle manufacturer and the fuel system.

Troubleshooting steps may vary by manufacturer, fuel system type, mass air flow (MAF) sensor type and wire colors, and air / fuel / oxygen ratio (AFR / O2) sensor type and wire colors.

Symptoms

Symptoms of a P2177 engine code may include:

• Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illuminated
• Lack of power
• Random misfires
• Poor fuel economy

Causes of the P2177 code

Possible reasons for setting this code:

• Faulty air / fuel / oxygen ratio sensor (AFR / O2)
• Faulty mass air flow (MAF) sensor
• Rare - Faulty Powertrain Control Module (PCM)

Diagnostic and repair procedures

A good starting point is always to check the Technical Service Bulletins (TSB) for your particular vehicle. Your problem may be a known issue with a known manufacturer-released fix and could save you time and money while troubleshooting.

First, look for other DTCs. If any of them are related to the fuel / fuel system, diagnose them first. A misdiagnosis is known to occur if a technician diagnoses this code before any fuel related system codes are thoroughly diagnosed and rejected. Check for inlet or outlet leaks. An intake leak or vacuum leak will deplete the engine. An AFR / O2 sensor exhaust leak gives the impression that the engine is running on a lean mixture.

Then find the air / fuel / oxygen ratio sensor and MAF sensor on your specific vehicle. Here is an example of an MAF sensor:

Once detected, visually inspect the connectors and wiring. Look for scuffs, scuffs, exposed wires, burn marks, or molten plastic. Disconnect the connectors and carefully inspect the terminals (metal parts) inside the connectors. See if they look rusty, burnt, or perhaps green compared to the usual metallic color you're probably used to seeing. If terminal cleaning is required, you can purchase electrical contact cleaner at any parts store. If this is not possible, find 91% rubbing alcohol and a light plastic bristle brush to clean them. Then let them air dry, take a dielectric silicone compound (the same material they use for bulb holders and spark plug wires) and place where the terminals make contact.

If you have a scan tool, clear the diagnostic trouble codes from memory and see if the code returns. If this is not the case, then there is most likely a connection problem.

If the code returns, we will need to check the MAF sensor voltage signal on the PCM. Monitor the scan tool MAF sensor voltage. If a scan tool is not available, check the signal from the MAF sensor with a digital volt ohm meter (DVOM). With the sensor connected, the red voltmeter wire must be connected to the signal wire of the MAF sensor and the black voltmeter wire must be connected to ground. Start the engine and observe the MAF sensor input. As the engine speed increases, the MAF sensor signal should increase. Check the manufacturer's specs, as there may be a table informing you of how much voltage should be at a given RPM. If this fails, replace the MAF sensor and recheck.

If the previous tests pass and the code is still present, check the air / fuel / oxygen ratio (AFR / O2) sensor. If it continually indicates that the engine is running on a lean mixture, identify any possibilities that could cause the engine to run on a lean mixture. These include:

• Intake or exhaust leaks
• Fuel system including fuel pressure / fuel pressure regulator.
• Fuel pressure sensor
• Fuel injectors
• O2 sensor after catalytic converter
• EVAP system, including the canister purge regulator valve.
• If the AFR / O2 sensor indicates that the engine is operating normally or even at rich, the PCM can be suspected if all other problems have been corrected.

Again, it cannot be stressed enough that all other codes must be diagnosed before this, since problems that cause other codes to be set can also cause this code to be set.

How does a mechanic diagnose a P2177 code?

By following these simple steps, a technician will diagnose code P2177:

• Connects a scanner and checks any code stored in the ECU.
• Marks all codes and associated freeze frame data
• Clears all codes for a fresh start
• The car is being tested under conditions similar to freeze frame data.
• A visual inspection is performed for broken components, damaged wiring, and breaks in the intake boot.
• The scan tool will be used to view long term fuel trims and compare row 1 with row 2.
• Oxygen sensor data will be observed and compared
• The inlet will be checked for air leaks.
• The mass air flow sensor will be checked for functionality.
• Fuel pressure will be checked

Common Mistakes When Diagnosing Code P2177

Mistakes are usually made when all the steps are not performed in the order they are listed, or if the steps are not performed at all. Another source of errors is the substitution of components without verification. This leads to misdiagnosis and may not actually repair the vehicle, resulting in a waste of time and money.

How serious is the P2177 code?

How serious a P2177 code is depends on the symptoms experienced. If no symptoms are noticed, then the code should not interfere with driving, but it should still be repaired as soon as possible. In cases where the vehicle stalls or misfires severely, it should not be driven and the vehicle should be repaired immediately.

What repairs can fix code P2177?

Many repairs can fix the P2177 code, such as:

• Fuel injectors replaced or cleared
• Fuel supply problems or low fuel pressure fixed
• Mass air flow sensor replaced or cleared if necessary
• Oxygen sensors replaced
• Fixed air intake leaks
• The cause of the misfiring has been corrected.

Additional comments to consider regarding code P2177

In some scenarios, a clogged fuel injector or low fuel pressure is present. This problem can be solved with fuel system cleaners. These cleaners are added to the intake or gas tank and are used to remove varnish from the fuel system.

Before replacing the MAF sensor, be aware that it can be cleaned with a MAF sensor cleaner. This is a special cleaner and is the only cleaner that should be used on the MAF sensor. In some cases, cleaning the sensor solves the problem and does not require replacement.

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